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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:49:00 -
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OK, so someone declares war on my corp - what move do I have that will FORCE them to retract the war? |

Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2013.06.04 11:54:00 -
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None of the those three choices will force them to retract the war. |

Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:03:00 -
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Borlag Crendraven wrote:Baldour Ngarr wrote:None of the those three choices will force them to retract the war. If you want to force them to retract the war, make them regret declaring it in the first place.
That is not forcing them, that's persuading them. |

Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:03:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Baldour Ngarr wrote:None of the those three choices will force them to retract the war. ISK makes me retract a war.
No it doesn't. It might make you CHOOSE to retract one, but you are not obligated to do so whether you want to or not. |

Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:12:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Baldour Ngarr wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Baldour Ngarr wrote:None of the those three choices will force them to retract the war. ISK makes me retract a war. No it doesn't. It might make you CHOOSE to retract one, but you are not obligated to do so whether you want to or not. Since you seem to think you know me.
Since you seem to be unable to read, let me try words of one syllable.
Me give you money not MAKE you stop war. You CHOOSE to stop war if I give you money. |

Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:18:00 -
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Seetesh wrote:If this is causing you to cry I am more that happy to hold your hand for you and point you in the direction of a "easy" mmo with no real loss factors. If that's too much grow a pair and understand this is eve and its what makes eve so great. Ten years on and I still love this game.
I don't think the OP is too much concerned that he might lose. He just wants to know how he can win. A corp that wants to fight can force another corp into a war; how can the latter corp, force them out of it?
Sure, they can fight, but that's giving the enemy what they want. They can pay someone else to fight, but that's still giving the enemy what they want. They can stay docked for a week but that's just refusing to play until the enemy gets bored.
Since corps can deliver a CONCORD message to other corps that says "you are going to be at war in 24 hours, like it or not" then, for the principle to be equal in both directions, it should be possible to deliver a CONCORD message that says "the war you declared will be over in 24 hours, like it or not."
The OP's idea of making them have a POS somewhere is - I think, but I could be very wrong! - not about forcing the enemy to lose ISK, but about giving you a chance to END the war, in your favour, at a time of YOUR choosing. Take a corp's POS away and the war ends immediately, they lose. At the moment, a war only ends when the corporation who declared it decides that it will end - or forgets to pay the weekly fee. (There used to be a mechanic whereby a CEO could pay another CEO in exchange for an end to the war - I don't think anyone ever used it, because the other CEO could agree the ceasefire then declare another war immediately afterwards, so it was completely pointless. I don't even know if it still exists.) |

Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:26:00 -
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Borlag Crendraven wrote:[ The current wardeclarations and surrend offers are made in such way that infact you CAN offer money which if accepted WILL end the war declaration. It is up the them to choose whether to take that offer or not, and you to keep rising the stakes until they do. Just because you can't think of any other reasons to make the war go away, doesn't mean there isn't one.
Again you miss the point. The OP is not asking how he can arrange an end to the war; he's asking how he can actually make the declaring corporation LOSE, by them being told the war is over whether they like it or not. |

Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2013.06.04 12:31:00 -
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Borlag Crendraven wrote:[quote=Baldour Ngarr][quote=Borlag Crendraven][ The current wardeclarations and surrend offers are made
Bullcrap. It could be an item bought off the market for 1 ISK, for all the difference it would make; just have it be deployed in space somewhere, and findable by the opposition. If your doodahwhatsit is destroyed by the enemy, war over you lose. Can't declare war on the same corporation again for four weeks. (It doesn't stop you fighting other people, it just means those guys beat you.)
There's already a way to make someone fight; this would be a way make them stop. |
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